Responce Post: Disrespecting Child of "It"

In addition to Rokhsor's post, I totally disagree with you to a degree that you won't even understand. What I understand is that you are basing your opinions upon your group not listening to you and your questions concerning the book. I wonder why you can't just annotate your ideas and questions and come up with the answer your self. Don't get me wrong, you have great questions and concerns about the book, and yes your group should have been focusing more on the main meaning of the book.

Wow,Child Called "It" is so boring. My entire group talked about was the abuse. Not even once did we get into the actual meaning of the book. Like, what exactly was the moral? Could there have been a reason why he published it? Obviously yes. So therefore, who did he want as his audience? All of these questions could have made a better conversation. For some reason or another, everyone was obsessing over the abuse and how much he or she hated the mother. I was disappointed at the fact that all we have discussed is abuse, abuse and abuse. It became boring and now the book is extremely dumb and pointless to me.

Rokhsor, I dislike how you claim that this book is boring , extremely dumb, and pointless. Yes, I get how it's your opinion and freedom of speech, yet atleast have some remorse or sympathy for the kid. This book is a story of the authors life, and in my opinion the author "David Pelzer" just wanted someone to understand him for a change. He even maybe wanted attention and sympathy that he just had to write the story. Also a good source of money since he has the skills and detailed ideas; so why couldn't that have been a reason.

On the other hand, I find the unproven statement of Catherine Roerva Pelzer's abuse so interesting and unique, i just urge to find out more about it. If this was truly the case of a mother retrieving harsh treatment, and treating her son the same exact way. Then why in the begging was she such a wonderful mother as explained in the book. Does her reaction towards her son have something to with a psychotic break after years of mothering. I don't believe for one moment that his mother was mental. She was highly intelligent and there is now some concept of her being treated the same as a child.

Litt Circle Discussion #3

This summary of A Child Called "It" by David Pelzer below has been used once before in my posts. However, since this is the last of the discussions and the book and it's posts itself, I might as well revise what the original story is about.

"This book chronicles the unforgettable account of one of the most severe child abuse cases in California history. It is the story of Dave Pelzer, who was brutally beaten and starved by his emotionally unstable, alcoholic mother: a mother who played tortuous, unpredictable games--games that left him nearly dead. He had to learn how to play his mother's games in order to survive because she no longer considered him a son, but a slave; and no longer a boy, but an "it."

During the discussion, Saber and I got into an argument on the topic of whether or not David's Father is a protector or a savior. In the end there was no right answer to our topic. David clearly states he has two opinions towards "his" father, it's truly his opinion and that, we can not argue about.

Yazen's Argument:

All my respect for Father was gone. The savior I had once imagined for so long was a phony.I felt more angry at him than I did at Mother. (Pg. 91)

Saber's Argument:

By now my shirt was saturated with blood. As I tried to regain my footing, I felt my Father's strong hands helping me. I brushed him away. (Pg. 92)

Digging farther in the discussion, I begin to see the answers to my deeper level three questions. Like for example why he never ran away or stood up to his mother and her discipline. Or to why he couldn't receive any help from others, and every time he tried, his attempt failed to succeed. The reason why he stayed alive all these years was because he kept himself alive. He managed to feed himself. He truly became Independent and learned how to play his mothers games.

I wanted to just lie down and quit, but the promise I made long ago kept me going. I wanted to show The Bitch that she could beat me only if i died, and I was determined not to give in, even to death. (Pg. 91)

Lit Circle Discussion 2

In the second Lit circle discussion, my group completed the task of reaching the second paper clip in the book called “The Child Called It”. What I will be covering up in this post will be the main points and questions my group circle reached this last discussion. Focusing on main ideas, questions, concerns, topics, etc. The questions that I will be responding to are: What were some of the most thought-provoking questions about your book that came up? What were some of the most thoughtful responses to these questions?

Saber begins to notice on how the kids emotions have no effect upon his cold hearted mother. He also pointed out that David can't cower under this womens hands if he wants to survive, he has to stand up for him self and play her games. Justice on the other hand, pointed out questions and opinions on why the mother beats David, and also how he's seen as not a part of the family. Jessica noted how much of a big liar his mother is due to all the times she lied and created excuses for the child's beatings.

" I knew if I wanted to live, I would have to think ahead. I could no longer cry like a helpless baby. In order to survive, I could never give in to her. That day I vowed to myself that I would never, ever again give that bitch the satisfaction of hearing me beg her to stop beating me."(Pg 43)

Last but not least, I noticed and pointed out in the discussion on how his mother monopolized her son into believing that all these beatings and abuses weren't just randomly given to him. Instead she convinced her child that he was a bad boy, and that he deserved what he was receiving, even though David is a pure innocent child, with nothing but the need of a mothers attention and love.

"For my punishment, I wasn't allowed to go with Father and my brothers to the super slide". (pg 54)

Notice the "for my punishment", as if he know's he's done something wrong, but the reality was that his mother just wanted to try out another one of her ideas involving a diaper full of shit being smeared around his face, and getting beat when he denied to eat it. And forces him to clean it off his face when she realized the rest of the family was coming back.

Suddenly Mother let go. "They're back! They're back!" she gasped. Mother snatched a wash cloth from the sink and threw it at me. "Clean the shit off your face," she bellowed as she wiped the brown stains from the counter top. (pg 57)

Bacha Bazi Meaning

Bacha Bazi is an Urdu term meaning child play. This is the horrific and disgusting practice that still exists in many countries, where prepubescent children are sold to wealthy and powerful men for sexual activities and entertainment. This horrid business is done only using boys and there are only males who buy these innocent human beings.

The boys that are sold are of very young age, around 11, and they are taught to sing and dance before being sold. This way they provide entertainment for their masters and become their pets.

Sexual abuse of children has been observed in many under develop countries because there is money involved, and it ruins the lives of the children on whom this barbarous act is carried out.

The selling and buying of little boys doesn’t end in a single iteration, it is continued when the rich person who buys a boy uses him and then sells him further to some other rich man.

Bacha Bazi

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Bacha Bazi Responce Post

Responding to a post done by my English teacher Mr. Sutherland, I came upon the subject that had to do with Bacha Bazi- responce post. Bacha Bazi originally means child prostitution, this act of slavery takes place in many countries, where prepubescent children are sold to wealthy and powerful men for sexual activities and entertainment. This horrid business is done only using boys and there are only males who buy these innocent human beings. Besides all of the horrible and unspeakable abuse that is given to these children, what truly catches my mind isn't their need for help and sympathy, yet it is the part of granting the help these children need.

It turns out that this was not just some scary trait of Assef, the villain of the novel. (Which means that many of our interpretations of his character were way off; we assumed he was an anomaly.) It turns out that his pattern of child molesting goes much deeper.

Wikileaks, in a recent document-dump, has stirred up evidence that as part of the war effort in Afghanistan, almost two billion US tax dollars have been spent contracting with a private company which, among other scandals, helped throw a party for Afghan police recruits where young boys were pimped out for sex.

Where my main concern comes into play is who is the main cause behind this plot and evil scene. It is said to be that high authority in country's, but to be exact Afghanistan, is behind this sick event. The Government is said to be behind this cruel event, and although it is said to be an illegal act, they continue this act in both private and public parties. I came to the conclusion that it wasn't just an accident that America had sent about two billion US tax dollars and part of that money just happened to be used for the Bacha Bazi parties hosted by officers.

The people ( whom ever that may be) that are contracting with this private company had full knowledge of what was going on. And that is why they chose to hide this document, other wise what else do they have to lose against the other governments actions.

Book Discussion

he quote below is a clear and fairly quick introduction of the book "A Child Called "It" written by Dave Pelzer. The quote below doesn't release any spoilers in any way. However, it does link to necessary parts farther beyond the introduction of this story.

"This book chronicles the unforgettable account of one of the most severe child abuse cases in California history. It is the story of Dave Pelzer, who was brutally beaten and starved by his emotionally unstable, alcoholic mother: a mother who played tortuous, unpredictable games--games that left him nearly dead. He had to learn how to play his mother's games in order to survive because she no longer considered him a son, but a slave; and no longer a boy, but an "it."

The most thought-provoking question that came up during the book discussion happens to be the obvious question of why? My discussion group and I, all came to an agreement of not fully understanding why David's mom had to abuse her child the way she did. The fact that she stabbed her child in the stomach, broke one of his arms, had nearly beaten him to death, and with more beatings threatened him not to report to anyone; this behavior seems to really reflect on his mother. Not understanding the first question also led to the confusion of understanding why she also filled his head and how she convinced him to believe that he was to blame for her beating. Almost as if she had him feeling that he was a worthless and as well a bad boy. What seemed to catch my attention was the question of: Why does he react in a confused way to the idea of being “free?” David hasn't felt the free sensation ever since his mother's troubles began, along with her troubles appeared his very own.

"David Pelzer,' he says, 'you're free.'" Chapter 1, The Rescue, pg. 14

This discussion had me thinking about the mothers mental instability. To think that David, the one that was just described earlier in this post as a hopeless child with a hopeless life. Soon came to realize that he had a family greater than anyone family I have ever heard of in description of a book. That the mother of this child was the greatest housewife, and had the best holiday houses out of every house within the neighborhood. Justice's question: Why do you think Dave's mother abused him? This question meant a lot to the whole group itself, and the recording group watching us. However, Christy's question of: Do you think there is an excuse for what she did? This question had the greatest effect in having me think deeply. I find Christy's question the best so far, since it is the main idea to think through out the story. What ever the reason was, David's mom had no right to blame her children. As I recall it was never his fault. Why do you think Dave's mother abused only him and not his siblings? A question presented upon us by Saber. The answer to this question still remains to be unknown, and that is why it interested me. These were the main topics of our group discussion.

"In the years before I was abused, my family was the 'Brady Bunch' of the 1960s." Chapter 2, Good Times, pg. 17

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Introduction

Responce Post

The post that caught my attention happened to be the post "Don't Prove it" -Stan. The reason I stopped upon this post instead of any other post was due to the devastating discussion that was going on about above and beneath it.

"What I dislike is when people try and convince me of their religion, yes, i can respect that they have their own beliefs but it doesn't mean that these ideas have to be opposed onto me. The way I see it there is no scientific evidence that god exists, or even Jesus for that matter. Asking me "Oh yeah? then where did the world come from?" is not even going to help prove god anyway. If I thought what you are trying to explain was correct, then wouldn't I already be a part of that religion? And besides, If i am respecting the fact that you have your own beliefs, then why can't you respect mine?"

This Quote that directly came from Stan's deep understanding seems to bring not just upon me, but upon many others who see the need for the proof and respect in religion. Stan's idea of him disliking when people try and convince him to their religion seems okay to me and I could strongly agree with it. Something I seem even to even agree with more is the fact that Stan states that he can respect that others have their own beliefs but it doesn't mean that their ideas have to be opposed onto him. This is something i would totally like people to do for me, but i just have to accept that not everybody will. The main thing I disagree with you Stan is about how you expect others to respect your expectations about religion, although you can't tend to stick to your own promise of respecting others religions. I can say this by stating out that every person tends to have an opinion of ones religion, thoughts, and ideas. This could be in a negative way, and it can be in a positive way. Most importantly I respect your expectations and I tend to commit to doing so.