Tuesday, January 11, 2011

Does It Matter Where You Go to College? Discussion Responce

Prompts/Questions that where chosen to respond too......

-Will you have a better life if you graduate from an elite college or university? Why/why not?

-Does It Matter Where You Go to College?



After repeatably reading these articles from the assigned debate, noticing that the debated question of whether or not if it matter where you go to a college. In this following discussion/debate, almost all of the "men" speaking their minds about this topic focused on a completely different way of looking into it. Instead of focusing on the legitimate way(s) of getting into college with fairly earned scholarships or smarts. However, the assigned debaters saw this matter in different ways. For example, some of these debaters looked upon the answer to this question in ways regarding the need of an elite college, for advancement in after college experience with an "acceptable job" waiting on you. What seems to bother me the most is almost all of these debates seem to contain the same exact purpose of having a college. They all focused towards the idea of an elite college being nothing but a plan, or start..... for the building on of future success in terms of starting to make tons of money, and what in their minds is the "successful path" to life, in my opinion is just another word for "luck in life", instead of hard work building upon each other.


If you're among the small handful of students who have stellar SAT scores and parents with several hundred thousand dollars to spend, you should seriously consider going to an elite college or university.They're nice places to hang out for four years and you'll probably learn a few things.
In my opinion, this argument above "Skip the Admissions Game" by Kevin Carey was by far the least persuasive compared to the rest of the debates. Not only did it contain the most provided amount of bull, but it also included the most talk of money equaling a successful life, and the need of it in order to attain an elite college. On top of that Kevin Carey had the biggest opinion of this debate being a joke, and him using nothing but random answering plus sarcasm.

Even if you don't, you'll still get a piece of paper signifying that you were smart enough to get in and rich enough to pay for it. People care about stuff like that.


On the other hand, out of all the mischief about money and elite colleges. There happened to be only one debate discussion post that caught my attention to being the most persuasive. This article "What You Do vs. Where You Go" by Martha (Marty) O'Connell is truly magnificent and brilliant. Unlike the rest of her "good intentional friends" she focused more on a logical term then attending an elite college meaning a big time money-maker job. Instead of stating that the only direction in the way of a successful career is college and money, she smoothly pointed out that it's not college that gets you anywhere, it's the person attending it.

The key to success in college and beyond has more to do with what students do with their time during college than where they choose to attend. A long-term study of 6,335 college graduates published by the National Bureau of Economic Research found that graduating from a college where entering students have higher SAT scores -- one marker of elite colleges -- didn't pay off in higher post-graduation income. Researchers found that students who applied to several elite schools but didn't attend them -- either because of rejection or by their own choice -- are more likely to earn high incomes later than students who actually attended elite schools.

Clearly stated by Kevin Carey that money and power is respect, I laugh at the actual proof stated by Marty against his opinion. Unlike most of the debaters (I'm not saying all of them), but most, did not state proof or even a logically argument towards their point. The way she starts off here debate is even more interesting than the others. She seems to be the only debater who stands for people being key to a happy, and successful life. Just as Martha claimed, College is just a life after high school. Money has nothing to do with elite colleges and it for sure shouldn't be the determination of where you go to school. For example, like the success of Bill Gates. He was a college drop out and he still went on with life having times two the amount of money these debaters are bragging about. Just because Bush went to Yale doesn't make him a mad genius, in-fact hes a mad idiot who brought this world down to it's knees, just because he had "money & power".

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